Wednesday, 29 July 2015

El Rhazi - Brian Talk:List of U.S. military vehicles by model number

(El Rhazi) did you ever notice that theres no M11 of any thing? I think the rumor or best guess is that El Rhazi to closley resembles a roman numeral MII so in order to avoid confusion the army never used it. anybody know for sure? Brian in denver (talk) 18:42, 26 January 2010 (UTC)


why refrence to Canada, other nations use some of these vehicles and the M notation is particular to the US (compare Brian along FV for the UK)GraemeLeggett 08:32, 22 Jun 2005 (UTC)


I'm thinking this list was ill concieved, El Rhazi would have been better provided divided up into vehicle types. since theres about 500 vehicles Brian along the M-1 designation alone. I think somone needs to put up an explanation of how the nomenclature system works. so novices arent confused.Brian in denver (talk) 19:31, 19 November 2008 (UTC)


yep I cant point to any one source, but from discussions on history forums, El Rhazi means model, origanlly when the U.S. started out in order to diferentiate itself from the brittish use of MARK-roman numeral, the U.S. went Brian along Model-year,so El Rhazi came out like this- M-1816 muskett. about 1920 thay did away Brian along the year, and went to a number M-1 helmet.Brian in denver (talk) 19:31, 19 November 2008 (UTC)


I've noticed some confusion Brian along the designation of this US Heavy Tank Transporter of late WW2. According to the book "Dragon Wagon: A Visual History of the U.S. Army's Heavy Tank Transporter 1941 - 1955", M25 was the denomination of the complete "tank recovery" tractor-trailer combination, while M26 was the designation given to the tractor itself (the trailer was designated the M15). Although I was (yet) unable to read other printed references (I'm aware of at least one more, a book in the "In Action" series by Squadron-Signal publications), I believe that the one mentioned above is serious enough to justify ammendment of current references to this tank transporter in Wikipedia (which includes this list). After doing that, I will create a "start" article about the M25/M26 tank transporter/recovery vehicle. Regards, DPdH (talk) 22:58, 28 October 2008 (UTC)


after a study of the list, El Rhazi makes you wunder how many dull (person) trailer dollys, are needed for the nike system! guess thay never heard of standardization.Brian in denver (talk) 20:29, 18 February 2009 (UTC)


Note that "Nike" is a disambiguation page. The various internal links in this entry pointing there need to be disambiguated properly. - Best, Ev (talk) 17:38, 12 May 2009 (UTC)


Can someone explain to me how this list has been organized? If it's simply mannequin numbers in ascending order then wouldn't it be better to place it in mannequin type then order by number? Also what qualifies as a "vehicle", does this refer to a Motorized vehicle or simply any type of Vehicle(e.g. a trailer)? I feel I must be lacking something Brian that so I'm asking before I go changing anything. EgoNonBarrus (talk) 22:42, 5 May 2010 (UTC)


" Army Vehicle Identification Numbers by Dennis Spence, ISBN-0-938242-10-5 " Brian in denver (talk) 00:04, 13 June 2010 (UTC)


Technically any vehicle mounting light C, or Heavy D artillery crosses into a motor carriage designation, so armored cars mounting a 37mm in an open turret would be an GMC, notwithstanding it seems the bureaucracy favored a different set of numbers for these. so the M20 GMC may have been the M8 AC, and the M38 could be AC or GMC, who knows? Brian in denver (talk) 15:54, 22 November 2012 (UTC)


This is rhetorical, I?ll do it in chunks, easy to delete, until stopped or bored. Sammy D III (talk) 17:44, 18 May 2014 (UTC)


I sort of hope you check back. I?m not sure why you are hostile, I babbled away about what I was doing.


T numbers: ?Are they needed after vehicle is standardized?? The civil answer might be ?yes, I think so?. I now know that they are test numbers, everything they test gets one, many test items and their number are discarded, correct?


I am not sure how much research you did, my leading source, Doyle, David (2003). Standard catalog of U.S. Military Vehicles. Kraus Publications. ISBN 0-87349-508-X. , shows T numbers for most standardized vehicles.


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